Man responsible for 20mph rollout accepts things should have been 'different' (2024)

The politician responsible for Wales' 20mph rollout has accepted that things should have been "different". In his speech during a debate on a petition against the policy the former deputy minister for climate change, Lee Waters MS, said he accepted there were "things the Welsh Government should have done differently" amid the controversial rollout.

The Senedd was debating on a petition against the 20mph rollout on Wednesday. The petition was signed by more than 450,000 people opposing Wales' 20mph speed limit, which was started as the law came into force in September 2023.

It called for the Welsh Government "to rescind and remove the disastrous 20mph law". The petition became the largest the Senedd has ever had. Questions were later raised about the checks that were made before signatures were added.

On Wednesday Mr Waters acknowledged how difficult it was to implement such a policy but highlighted that the policy had "saved lives". Addressing the Senedd he said: "Llywydd, a protest of this size should make us pause and reflect. And it has. Though the petition itself is unfortunately full of misunderstandings and misinformation that’s not really the point. Hundreds of thousands of people put their names to it and it made us sit up and take notice.

"Of course we expected push-back but the intensity of it was greater than we anticipated. Thankfully, things have now settled down. And we now know that 97% of the people who signed the petition did so in the first two weeks after the speed limit changed when the signs were still going up in some places. But we listened to the protest and we acted. We launched a review, earlier than planned, into how the speed limit was being implemented. And far from ‘marking our own homework’, as we were accused, the initial report from the review panel was pretty blunt.

"It said there were things the Welsh Government should have done differently, that I should have done differently, and that local councils should have done differently. And I accept that. The review said the communications campaign came too late; there wasn’t enough support and buy-in from across the Welsh Government to prepare for the change; and there was poor consultation by local councils with their communities. And I agree with all that."

He added: "Listening and learning is not failure. It sometimes takes more than one go to get things right. And as I said at the outset, a change of this scale, of this complexity, implemented across 22 different local authorities – in an era of austerity and hollowed-out staffing – was always going to be tricky. And perhaps the trickiest part was the cultural change this represented, which we definitely underestimated.

"We have a deep-seated culture of car dominance in our country. What researchers from Swansea University’s psychology department have called ‘motor normativity’; where people have an in-built acceptance of the harms from motor vehicles that they would not accept in other parts of life. That makes any challenge to car dominance very hard to do and that’s why it is usually avoided. Lowering the speed limit challenged the sense of entitlement some drivers had developed over decades that they should be able to go fast, regardless of the impact on the people living on those streets and the children playing on them – or, more accurately, the children not playing on them because it didn’t feel safe."

He later added: "We’ve seen culture warriors, here and elsewhere, seize on the issue to create conflict in communities. And we’ve seen deliberate misinformation, and false descriptions like ‘blanket’, designed to deliberately sow confusion. And our evidenced-based, modestly-funded information campaign was simply drowned out. We lost the comms war. It has been rough on everyone on the frontline of this bold and ambitious policy. So to everyone in a public-facing role who has faced the wrath and abuse that has come with this big change; to local government officers, local councillors, community campaigners, Senedd Members and MPs; to the police and fire service. Can I say thank you. We should all be proud of the fact that the policy is working. Speeds are down. People are driving slower.

"Despite the criminal damage, the misinformation, the aggressive driving and tailgating, the protests, and the petition. Average speeds are down – 4mph slower in the first few months in the last data we have. And for every drop in the average speed limit of 1mph casualties are estimated to fall by 6%. That’s fewer heartbroken families. Fewer lives destroyed. Fewer people filling A&E and consultant waiting lists. And fewer who feel unsafe in their own communities. I’m not sure what price you can put on that to be honest. Has the implementation been perfect? Of course it hasn’t. It was never going to be. The reality is that there just was not enough capacity and resources at the Welsh Government end, nor at the local government end, to do everything we wished to. Has it been universally welcomed?

"Of course it hasn’t. It was never going to be. But while we hear from the objectors we tend not to hear so much from the supporters. I think it is significant that councils were telling us all along that they received very few examples of people who thought the speed on their own street was too low. Llywydd, mistakes were made, particularly in not doing genuine consultations in communities, and in the uneven and inflexible way the guidance was interpreted in some parts of Wales. I am prepared to accept my part in all that. But let the two-thirds of members of the Senedd who supported a default 20mph speed limit remember: there are people alive today because of this law. Together we will have saved lives."

The 20mph law came into force in September 2023 under Mark Drakeford's administration. He promised a review into the scheme after six months, which coincided with the new Labour leader, Vaughan Gething, taking over. The scheme now falls under the remit of Ken Skates, the transport minister. He vowed to carry out a three stage review including a "genuine listening exercise" where people are asked to give details of the roads they want to see change back to 30mph.

The guidance councils have to use to enforce the policy will also be reworked. The changes will cost millions, on top of the £33m already spent but Mr Skates could not say how many roads he expects to change. During Wednesday's debate Mr Skates said he took "full responsibility" moving forward and vowed to make the policy a "success" in Wales.

More roads are expected to change in north rather than south Wales. The leaders of Cardiff and Swansea councils have, respectively, said they expect six and 10 to change in their council area. You can read the detail of his announcement from April here.

More than 1,500 people were caught breaking the 20mph speed limit in April, by far the highest monthly figure since enforcement began. The average speeds of people caught breaking the limit were more than 30mph in both south and north Wales – the highest average speed in either area since the speed limits changed.

Man responsible for 20mph rollout accepts things should have been 'different' (2024)

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Man responsible for 20mph rollout accepts things should have been 'different'? ›

In his speech during a debate on a petition against the policy the former deputy minister for climate change, Lee Waters MS

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should have done differently" amid the controversial rollout.

Who introduced the 20mph speed limit? ›

Wales was one of the first countries in the world, and the first nation in the UK, to introduce legislation to have a default 20mph speed limit. The change applied to restricted roads only. These are usually in residential and built-up areas where there are lots of people.

What are the rules for 20mph speed limit? ›

If you are driving in a residential or built-up area, and there are streetlights, then drive at 20mph unless you see a sign telling you otherwise. See streetlights, think 20mph. There are gateway speed limit signs, the larger signs shown as you enter a different speed limit area, to clearly indicate the correct speed.

Is the Welsh government review 20mph? ›

The review team has looked at how highway authorities have applied the 20mph policy change across Wales. The report recognises the need for balance between safety concerns and potential benefits of higher speeds on key strategic or main roads.

Is there a speed limit in Wales 20 miles per hour? ›

From 17 September 2023, a new 20mph speed limit will come into force on certain roads across Wales. Some roads will remain at 30mph, but approximately 35% of the roads in Wales (by length) will become 20mph. Your drivers will need to know in advance that the new 20mph speed limit will be in operation in certain areas.

Which president started the 55 mph speed limit? ›

As an emergency response to the 1973 oil crisis, on November 26, 1973, President Richard Nixon proposed a national 50 mph (80 km/h) speed limit for passenger vehicles and a 55 mph (90 km/h) speed limit for trucks and buses.

Does driving at 20mph cause more pollution? ›

Many people assume that at lower speeds extra fuel is used and more pollution created. In fact the reverse is true. That's why "Total 20"[1], without traffic calming, is supported by so many environmental organisations.

What state has the highest speed limit? ›

The highest posted speed limit in the country is 85 mph (137 km/h) and can be found only on Texas State Highway 130, a toll road that bypasses the Austin metropolitan area for long-distance traffic.

Can you go 80 mph on the highway in California? ›

The maximum speed limit on most California highways is 65 mph.

Can you go 5 miles over the speed limit in California? ›

You may wonder, “Is going 5 MPH over the speed limit legal?” Going any amount over the posted speed limit is illegal—even if it's only 5 miles per hour (MPH). If you were injured by a motorist who was speeding, even if it was just by a small margin over the speed limit, you still have rights.

What is the national strategy for 20mph? ›

The National Strategy for 20mph was first included in the Programme for Government for 2022/23 following a Member's Bill introduced by Mark Ruskell MSP in 2018, which proposed reducing the default speed limit of all 'restricted' roads from 30mph to 20mph.

Why is there 20mph in London? ›

Effect on traffic and pollution

It also shows that in 20mph zones vehicles move more smoothly, with fewer accelerations and decelerations, than in 30mph zones. This smoother driving style actually reduces particulate emissions from tyre and brake wear. We closely monitor changes we make to our roads.

What is 20mph traffic calming? ›

20mph zones use traffic calming measures to reduce the adverse impact of motor vehicles on built up areas. The principle is that the traffic calming slows vehicles down to speeds below the limit, and in this way the zone becomes 'self-enforcing'.

How long does it take to drive 1 mile at 20 mph? ›

At 60 mph you're traveling 1 mile per minute. 20 mph is 1/3 of 60 mph. Therefore at 20 mph it takes you 3 minutes.

Can you drive 80 mph in UK? ›

The highest speed limit in the UK is 70mph, this applies to cars, motorcycles, car-derived vans and dual-purpose vehicles on motorways and dual carriageways. The same vehicles can drive at a maximum speed of 60mph on single carriageways.

Why is the UK speed limit 70 mph? ›

Safety. The 30 mph (48 km/h) speed limit in built-up areas was introduced in 1934 in response to high casualty levels. The 70 mph (112 km/h) limit on previously unrestricted roads was introduced in 1965 following a number of serious motorway accidents in fog earlier the same year.

Who came up with the idea of speed limits? ›

Similarly, Boston, Massachusetts, limited horse-drawn carriages to "foot pace" on Sundays to protect church-goers. The English Parliament is credited with setting the world's first speed limit for mechanically-propelled vehicles in 1861.

When was the 30 mph speed limit introduced? ›

The 30 mph limit was introduced by the Road Traffic Act 1934 as a way of slowing traffic in built-up areas (defined as having a system of street lights no more than 200 yards apart) for road safety.

What is the original source of the 55 mph speed limit? ›

In 1974, the federal government passed the National Maximum Speed Law, which restricted the maximum permissible vehicle speed limit to 55 miles per hour (mph) on all interstate roads in the United States. The law was a response to the 1973 oil embargo, and its intent was to reduce fuel consumption.

Who broke the first speed limit? ›

On 28th January 1896 Mr Walter Arnold of East Peckham became the first person to be caught speeding in a motorised vehicle. Mr Arnold was spotted doing a heady 8mph, four times the 2mph speed limit, and was pursued for 5 miles by a policeman on a bicycle…

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